Indian investors are still in reverse track, Nilesh Shah
tells ET Wealth. The good news is a more mature set of investors has entered
the market in recent years.
A recent report says most actively managed mutual funds underperformed their benchmarks in the past five years. What are your observations?
Nilesh Shah: There's a saying that if you torture data enough, it will confess to everything. The SPIVA report is nothing but torturing of data. They have failed to appreciate that the worst performing Indian mutual fund outperformed Warren Buffett in dollar terms by over four times in the past 17 years. They also failed to appreciate that Indian equity fund managers outperformed the benchmark indices by double the margin by which Buffett outperformed indices in past 17 years. So we are outperforming the God himself, but you are torturing data to represent something that is untrue. All I can say is, please don't denigrate us and represent data to get sensational headlines.
You think all mutual funds have done their job well?
Nilesh Shah: As a mutual fund house, our job is to ensure that we take proper care of our clients' money. This could be in terms of outperforming the benchmark indices of the respective schemes. Fund managers are also human. They also make errors. If they keep on repeating those errors, there is cause for concern. In 2000, a lot of fund managers went wrong in picking companies. In 2008, a lot of us went wrong on the valuations. But at least the mistake of picking the wrong companies was avoided.
Equity funds have given good returns in the past 10-15 years. Why are investors still staying away?
Nilesh Shah: Indian investors were 45% owners of Indian equity in the early 1990s. Today, they own only 9-10%. While the market cap of Indian companies has soared, the Indian public has just sold off its stake. There are lots of Indian companies run by excellent entrepreneurs and managers. These people work hard but the fruits of their hard work are enjoyed more in Singapore, Hong Kong, London and New York, rather than in Ahmedabad, Bengaluru, Mumbai and Delhi. Indian companies are progressing but Indian investors are still in reverse track. If Indian investors had not sold off, HDFC and other great companies would still be Indian-owned.
Some portion of the EPF corpus will now be invested in stocks. What do you think of the development?
Nilesh Shah: It is a positive move. The investment philosophy followed by the EPFO for the past several decades has led to poor returns for investors. There are millions of subscribers who have been contributing to it for the past 15-20 years. By not investing in equities, they have remained poor. Imagine how much richer they could have been if some portion of their PF balance was allocated to equities 15-20 years ago.
Do you think equity fund investors in India have matured in the past 10-15 years?
Nilesh Shah: On one hand, there are investors who are happy with a reasonable return that beats the broader market. On the other hand there are investors who want to double their money in a very short time. They think that since fund managers appear on TV and other media, they are gurus. If a fund manager could predict with certainty where the market was headed, why would he work? A fund manager is not a wizard, he doesn't have a magic wand like Harry Potter. However, a more mature set of investors is now emerging. They are not too upset when markets don't do well. They understand that the downturn is transitional and try to gain from it by buying more at low prices. A growing number of investors is also realising the benefits of regular and longterm investing. There are 78 lakh SIP investors in funds today. We pray they continue and reap benefits of systematic investments in equities.
A recent report says most actively managed mutual funds underperformed their benchmarks in the past five years. What are your observations?
Nilesh Shah: There's a saying that if you torture data enough, it will confess to everything. The SPIVA report is nothing but torturing of data. They have failed to appreciate that the worst performing Indian mutual fund outperformed Warren Buffett in dollar terms by over four times in the past 17 years. They also failed to appreciate that Indian equity fund managers outperformed the benchmark indices by double the margin by which Buffett outperformed indices in past 17 years. So we are outperforming the God himself, but you are torturing data to represent something that is untrue. All I can say is, please don't denigrate us and represent data to get sensational headlines.
You think all mutual funds have done their job well?
Nilesh Shah: As a mutual fund house, our job is to ensure that we take proper care of our clients' money. This could be in terms of outperforming the benchmark indices of the respective schemes. Fund managers are also human. They also make errors. If they keep on repeating those errors, there is cause for concern. In 2000, a lot of fund managers went wrong in picking companies. In 2008, a lot of us went wrong on the valuations. But at least the mistake of picking the wrong companies was avoided.
Equity funds have given good returns in the past 10-15 years. Why are investors still staying away?
Nilesh Shah: Indian investors were 45% owners of Indian equity in the early 1990s. Today, they own only 9-10%. While the market cap of Indian companies has soared, the Indian public has just sold off its stake. There are lots of Indian companies run by excellent entrepreneurs and managers. These people work hard but the fruits of their hard work are enjoyed more in Singapore, Hong Kong, London and New York, rather than in Ahmedabad, Bengaluru, Mumbai and Delhi. Indian companies are progressing but Indian investors are still in reverse track. If Indian investors had not sold off, HDFC and other great companies would still be Indian-owned.
Some portion of the EPF corpus will now be invested in stocks. What do you think of the development?
Nilesh Shah: It is a positive move. The investment philosophy followed by the EPFO for the past several decades has led to poor returns for investors. There are millions of subscribers who have been contributing to it for the past 15-20 years. By not investing in equities, they have remained poor. Imagine how much richer they could have been if some portion of their PF balance was allocated to equities 15-20 years ago.
Do you think equity fund investors in India have matured in the past 10-15 years?
Nilesh Shah: On one hand, there are investors who are happy with a reasonable return that beats the broader market. On the other hand there are investors who want to double their money in a very short time. They think that since fund managers appear on TV and other media, they are gurus. If a fund manager could predict with certainty where the market was headed, why would he work? A fund manager is not a wizard, he doesn't have a magic wand like Harry Potter. However, a more mature set of investors is now emerging. They are not too upset when markets don't do well. They understand that the downturn is transitional and try to gain from it by buying more at low prices. A growing number of investors is also realising the benefits of regular and longterm investing. There are 78 lakh SIP investors in funds today. We pray they continue and reap benefits of systematic investments in equities.
Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/interviews/indian-funds-have-beaten-warren-buffett-in-returns-says-nilesh-shah/articleshow/47395888.cms
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