In an Interview with ET Now, Vijai Mantri, MD & CEO, Pramerica
Mutual Fund, gives his views on Indian markets. Excerpts:
ET Now: After the recent run up that India has seen, we have
become the most expensive in the region, and Sensex is at a valuation of 15
times FY12 earnings, is it time to exercise caution?
Vijai Mantri : I do not think it is a time to log out
because if you look at Indian market from valuation perspective, it is still
discounted to last 5 to 10 years average PE multiple or price to book value.
If you look at the earnings growth of Indian equity market,
the top line continues to grow at close to 20%, even December quarter numbers
growth on top line was close to 20%. If you look at the bottom line, we have
seen perhaps the worst quarterly result in December 2011 and the results are
bottomed out. and there are significant upsides.
The visibility on the corporate bottom line will start
emerging over next six month period. So we have not seen yet the full cycle of
when the unleveraging will happen, when the interest rate go down, when the
one-time adjustment is being taken care of.
So if you look from a valuation perspective, if you look
from an earning perspective, we clearly see there is a lot of leg left in this
rally and it is not the time to cash out.
Compared to 2009, where the market went up significantly and
suddenly investor did not have the opportunity to participate in the equity
market, 2012 may allow multiple entry points for the retail investor. So if you
are investor and you are investing for three to five year period, whenever you
see correction in Indian equity markets you should put money rather than taking
money out.
ET Now: Which are some of the key sectors you are bullish on
where you have overweight positions and which are the key sectors on your avoid
list?
Vijai Mantri : We are buying more in the banking space
because we believe the banks will be in a sweetest spot over a 6 to 12 month
period for very simple reason that most of the bad news about the banking
sector has already been priced in.
The most important news is on the NPA side and if we look at
the balance sheet of the bank and if we look at what price they are available,
many of these banks are available in the historical low valuation and it means
that significant amount of NPAs has already been discounted in and, we do not
see NPA going to be that much in the banking space.
The second thing is, the interest rate is going to come down
over the next 12 to 18 month period, it would help banking sector
significantly.
The third thing, one needs to look at the interest rate
curb, if you look at three months bank CD or six month bank CD or 12 month bank
CD, they are available around 10% and, if you look at 10-year GSec it is around
820 to 825, so the yield curve is clearly inverted, suggesting interest rate is
going to come down.
When the interest rate is going to come down, lot of NPAs
would see recovery, so I believe, banking sector would be an interesting space
to be in. It is also a direct play of India GDP.
The second space we are turning bullish is the capital goods
because we believe this sector will see some activities because the government
will come out of the reform post budget and post UP election and, the market
would see the visibility of these things at least 6 to 12 month now but the
visibility as far as the profits and the activities of the investment side will
take 6 to 12 months.
But the market will start discounting these things much
ahead of a visibility on these areas. So I believe capital goods, banking would
be the interesting space and added to that is industrial space. We are
overweight on these three sectors. We are underweight on real estate, we are
underweight on IT.
ET Now: So what do you like from the cap good space?
Vijai Mantri : If you look at the capital goods, we like
BHEL, L&T, Crompton & Greaves, Thermax.
If you look at the cycle of these companies over the last 10
to 15 year period, you get out what should have been your entry point and when
you could make money in these stocks. These companies have gone through the
challenges where the order book position was not looking very good.
The policy paralysis we have seen in past, interest rate
going up, the competition from international market, so these companies have
seen all these things over the last 15 to 20 year period and the best time to
own these stocks has always been around the same time, so we are looking at
these companies.
ET Now: Indian markets are up 20% this year and that is
largely on account of liquidity but the fundamental turf is not looking
exceptionally strong, factors which got us down in November and December were
high crude prices, high inflation and a ballooning subsidy burden, can we brush
aside all the macro concerns?
Vijai Mantri : I do not think we can brush aside. These
problems would continue to remain there. I think inflation would come down. If
you look at the fiscal deficit the government has said there is 4.6% fiscal
deficit.
Market has already anticipated even in last year that these
numbers do not add up, so market was already discounting all these factors. If
you look at this year, market is anticipating that as far as fiscal deficit is
concerned, it may hit 5% plus kind of number so market has priced in all these
things.
If positive news flow happens then you will see the market
going to the new level and the positive news flow may not necessarily has to
come from the international market. If you look at the rupee-dollar play, part
of the inflation is because rupee has depreciated against the US dollar and,
now rupee is in appreciation course and if that stays there, again inflation
would come down.
So we know that the inflation would remain there, it may
come down to 6% but still above RBIs comfort level to 4% to 5%, but 6% is
pretty okay. It may have a chance to coming down further. About fiscal deficit,
we know the ground reality will remain around 5% but in spite of those things,
we believe that the India is in a good shape and it will continue to be in good
shape post budget and UP elections.
ET Now: On a scale of 1 to 10 what to your mind are the
chances that Indian markets will touch or will cross the previous high of
21000?
Vijai Mantri : My sense is that over the next 12-month, the
market may touch new high and I will put 70% chance on that.
Source: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-02-17/news/31071532_1_banking-sector-banking-space-interest-rate/2
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